Tuesday, June 12, 2012


Tim Beckley writes about the "negative side" of UFOs, citing Scott Corrales' recent article Cemeteries and UFOs (see post below.) HELLFIRE AND BRIMSTONE: The Dark Side of UFOLOGY
It’s UFOlogy’s dirty little secret. It’s something that is better left swept under the rug. Stanton Friedman doesn’t talk about it. Stephen Bassett most assuredly would keep the subject at arm’s length. The late Richard Hall would have deleted you from his address book. And Steven Greer would never consider it part of his ongoing Disclosure program.

To coin ourselves a catch-all phrase that brings together all the negative aspects of the subject, I prefer to call it the DARK SIDE OF UFOLOGY!

It would appear – at least at first glance – that only those who consider themselves Christian fundamentalists have a rigorous drum to beat on behalf of the subject matter we are considering – that at least some UFOs can rightfully be tied in with Demonic phenomenon. It would seem to be almost an exclusive element of their zealous faith based belief system that contends anything remotely occult or supernatural—and that would definitely include UFOs -- has a stanch ally in the devil and his minions. Christian apologist, Dave Hunt has stated, “the same people that run UFOs are the same people that run haunted houses.“ ~ Tim Beckley

I think one reason among several many UFO explorers reject the dark side is the religious flavor. It sounds all so medieval and superstitious. A lot of individuals, myself included, don't want to be thought of as, say, fundamental Christian literalists. Or, in my case, Christian anything. That doesn't mean these things don't exist; it's just the box these things come in that distracts.

I have been frustrated for years with various UFO groups who smugly decide no "negative" tales shall be told in their groups. They've taken the high road. So much for research.


Alfred Lehmberg said...

That's not a research group, that's a mutual congratulations society. [g].

Terry the Censor said...

> I have been frustrated for years with various UFO groups who smugly decide no "negative" tales shall be told in their groups.

I am likewise puzzled with abduction researchers who a priori rule out positive tales of contact.

There doo seem to be a lot of ideological considerations in ufology.

Anonymous said...

On the one hand I think there could be an actual ET presence.
It also makes sense to me that there may be another or other intelligences that share or intersect with our world (crypto, interdimensional, ultraterrestrial ect.) and behave negatively towards us for reasons we cannot fully comprehend.

John Keel considered straight out ETs as possibly here, yet he also stated investigating ufos was akin to "demonology" and warned off parents and teachers of teens that wanted to start ufo clubs in highschool. And, Jacques Vallee described ufos as "messengers of deception" and in the "same class as occult entities".

Ann Druffel is a very thoughtful, longtime investigator. In 'The Tujunga Canyon Contacts' she (and her co-investigator/author D. Scott Rogo) noted palpable negativity outside and inside the home of the young women who were being abducted.

And, Druffel's book 'How to Defend Yourself Against Alien Abduction' has ritual religious practices (from non-Christian belief systems as well) that can be tried for protective measures.

The Abrahamic religions as well as Hinduism, Buddhism and various spiritualities all recognize negative entities and their involvement in humanity.
I've had remarkably less intrusions into my life after reading the suggestions in Druffel's book.

My late Armenian grandfather, as a young teen outside of Ankara Turkey, saw tiny big-headed creatures float out of a disc shaped object where he and his cousin were apricot harvesting. He and his cousin then had what we now call "missing time". He confided what he saw with his Eastern Orthodox priest who told him they were "cini" (roughly similar in translation to the arabic djinn). Neither young teens nor the priest were thinking "flying saucers", "ufos","spaceships" because this was in the first part of the 20th century.

What's awfully sad is some ufo/abduction investigators who are born-again (aka fundies or evangelicals) tic off a list of what an abductee/experiencer has done/is doing wrong (sinful) as the "cause" for "demonic" abductions. A few examples: If you're a man and lusting after a woman...Homosexuality/Lesbianism/BiSexuality...If you smoke cigarettes...If you drink alcohol/take illegal drugs...If you've had an abortion...If you're a woman and wearing "suggestive" clothing or too much makeup/perfume...If you bite your nails/pick your skin...If you've used psychics, tarot, runes, ouija, pendulums and eight-ball (yeah, that silly round plastic thing which was popular in the 1970s-80s). ['Unholy Communion' by David Ruffino]

One poor man claimed to see a ufo land behind his home in a forested area....he became suddenly sleepy and went to bed...he found himself awake shortly thereafter hoisted up near his ceiling with an "invisable pole" stuck deep into his colon. The born-again investigators determined he'd been "back-sliding" from his faith because he allowed his wife to host a baby shower where a needle/string pendulum was used to determine how many children the women who attended were to have and the babies genders. The husband was not acting as "head of his household" by allowing such "occult" activity to occur.

So, it's obvious the born-again p.o.v. from investigators/writers like Ruffino is that it's always the sinning abductee's fault- which is absolute nonsense, ignorant and masochistic. And it's quite different from what Druffel, Keel and Vallee have written.

~ Susan

Regan Lee said...

Susan, I appreciate your comments and your knowledge. I agree with you. While I also accept that there are ETs, there are also "others" that, I think, we throw into the ET category. It still seems to be an either or situation: you're either a religious fundie, or, you're not. But you don't have to be religious or a Christian to accept that there are, for what many would call Djinn, for example...whatever term you want to put on them, researchers like Keel, etc. were aware of their existence. This part of UFO research, all this time later, still seems to be in the margins.