Lee Speigel on C2C tonight: Oregon's Metal Boxes

It won't stop, will it? Lee Speigel will be on C2C tonight with host George Knapp (the best.) Speigel will talk about the "odd metal boxes in relation to online hoaxes."

HULIQ:'UFO sighting beliefs counter today's science while new metal box theory floated'

(I had planned to go out there this weekend, but family illness keeps me in town for now...hopefully I can go out there next weekend.)

An update from Dave Masko on the metal boxes.UFO sighting beliefs counter today's science while new metal box theory floated. Theories are afoot. For example, "...the boxes on the beach are merely floats that were originally built to support docks," (William Hanshumaker, Hatfield Marine Science Center.)

The fear of metal boxes has to do with post Cold War angst. Or something. Time writer Jeff Wise is quoted in the article:

Mention “strange metal boxes” on the beach, and “people sort of shut down and call you a UFO nut. They need answers right now, and they won’t give an inch until they either try and understand or simply dismiss what you’re saying because ‘UFO’ is part of it,” added Errol when expressing her personal angst over being shot as the messenger for what other many in society view as real or not real.

In turn, people are funny adds Wise when noting how “the Cold War is over, but there’s still enough nuclear mega tonnage to end civilization,” but, alas, people will fear something unknown – such as UFOs and people who spot strange metal boxes on the beach – over loose nukes in our world.

The UFO connection will not go away. The boxes are disappearing, incorporated into art pieces and taken as souvenirs of alien activity.

Much of the article is the same material used in previous articles.

Entering the Orb: Location Connection in Dream

I had the following dream last night; I'm leaving out one detail because it was about a public figure's death. (Said person is, as far as I know, very much alive.)

 I drive out to the coast, but it wasn't a place I'd been to before. Like most dreams, this location is all mixed up. Part coast, (50 miles west) but part south of me towards the small town of Cottage Grove, a straight shot down 1-5 from Eugene. About 25 min. away. (Cottage Grove is said to be haunted in a lot of ways: UFOs, strange things, and in fact, I've always felt uneasy and, well, "haunted" whenever out there. That includes the outlying areas like Dorena Lake.)

I arrive at my destination. Jim is with me. We're all about UFOs, Mothman, ghosts... lots of talk about that with others who are researchers and witnesses.  The woods are all around us. It turns into night.  I become very  nervous because I have to drive back to Eugene  but don't like to drive at night, especially on a road I'm not used to. Jim seems to have disappeared around this time; for some reason, I have to drive back alone.  Several of the people here accuse me of being a big chicken and not serious about UFOs because I want to wait until morning to drive back.  I try to make them aware that driving at night, in the dark without lights and on an unfamiliar road in an unfamiliar town is irresponsible.

It wasn't until I started writing this, sharing it with others (because of the person dying, mainly) that I realized with a jolt the Cottage Grove-orb-missing time connection. Jim and I were coming back from Cottage Grove, at night, when we had our orange orb sighting and missing time.

One Metal Box Theory: Radiation and Disinformation

At the back of my mind limped the dark thought that all the authoritative sources cited concerning the glowing, sceeching, impervious metal boxes on Oregon coasts were covering up, or at best, dupes in a larger cover-up. I also thought that researchers, like Linda Moultan Howe, who interviewed these authorities, gave up too easily.

So the story goes, residents insist they have not seen a thing, someone made a YouTube video on how it was all a hoax, authorities deny anything strange at all. And that's very likely.

Still, that nagging thought of a "what if" in the back of my mind. Not a "what if" as in alien from outer space, but something to do with Fukushima, and/or covert government activity. When I told Jim this story of the strange metal boxes and the seeming "no there there" aspect his immediate response was that these boxes have something to do with monitoring radiation. (Or, on further research, metal boxes containing radioactive waste.)

Now if that's so, it seems, as I've mentioned in previous posts, pretty rash to go up to these boxes-- for example, using them as material for ones art.

More importantly, if it's true, the truth about the radiation levels continues to be hidden from us. Throw in distractions and disinformation about aliens, UFOs, and hoaxes, and there you have it.

Just When You Think . . . 'Mayan prophecy shared with metal box at 42nd annual Yachats art fair '

Just when one might think the case of the keening glowing metal boxes is over, well, not yet.

At the annual Yachats art fair, artist Leo D’Alessandro will present a metal box:

“Since the Mayan prophecy for this year of 2012 is expected to bring the dawn of a new era – a year of transformation for our planet – what better way for me to share my visions of the Mayans than with the metal box I salvaged from our beach.”
I know the mention of having one of these mysterious boxes involved is exciting. It’s just right, I feel, to compliment my Mayan theme for the work I present this year.”

Mayan prophecy shared with metal box at 42nd annual Yachats art fair | HULIQ
Tying the metal box into Mayan prophecy -- wow. As an artist myself, I recognize opportunistic pretentious b.s. when I hear it. (example: his art is

Maybe I'm being too snarky. I don't know the artist, or have seen his work. I'll try to make it to the art show if I can.

There's also the "hybrid" -- another artist, simply named "Pam," has made a film that contains a woman who's told her she is a hybrid:
am says the one woman claims to be a “hybrid,” and is questioned by an older local woman. Pam says she shot the “hybrid” female (someone who claims to have alien origins) slightly out of focus.

Hoax Verification? Metal Boxes on OR Beach

More on the hoax aspect of those metal boxes allegedly found at Stonefield Beach and elsewhere: 'Metal Boxes' On OR Beaches May Have Been Hoax, as reported by Greg and Wendy Barnes.

Scientists prepare for tsunami debris on Oregon Coast | KTVB.COM Boise

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Keening Boxes: In Case I've Been Misunderstood

I'm very curious about this case of the keening boxes on Oregon beaches. For one thing, it's an excuse for me to get out to the coast -- research, you know.

I never thought for one moment that these glowing, screeching, impossible to open boxes buried deep in the sands contained aliens. Or came from UFOs.

The story goes: boxes, heavy, impervious to tools, glowing, weird noises, appearing on beaches said to be heavy with UFO activity. Who can resist a story like that? I'm interested in the story as a story, the insistence of those telling the story that there's UFO affected activity afoot, that residents have been awakened to terrible wailing noises, and all the rest of it. Persistence in the telling is what intrigues me.

This isn't to say UFOs aren't showing themselves along the Oregon coast. They most certainly are, and have been for some time. Whether or not the boxes have anything to do with them -- I am pretty certain the answer is a big "no."
(As my mother said, who lives in the area, "I don't think aliens would show up locked inside boxes.")

In the area is NOAA, newly arrived. The Hatfield Marine Science Center. The Newport Aquarium. There's even a Ripley's museum!

Government experiments: lost, gone awry, intentional. Or, not. Debris from the tsunami. Pretty likely. There's the insistence by some scientists that the debris wouldn't show up yet, but, it has been showing up.

Here's something interesting: a YouTube video of how the whole metal-box-on-the-beach-from-UFOs is a hoax. Furthermore, David Masko, coastal UFO investigator who broke this story, is a "CIA operative." This story gets better all the time.



There's also the snarky skeptoid words of an unnamed retired psychology professor who lives on the coast who, while correct in the opinion the boxes have nothing to do with aliens or UFOs, is utterly wrong in just about every other stupid thing that spewed from his mouth. I mean really dahlings, what a tool!

In turn, this retired professor said in a Feb. 6 Huliq interview at Stonefield Beach that most locals and visitors here “looking for those UFOs” are more or less carrying their own “baggage or self-as-content,” with views and experiences that now seem to define them.

...thinks the many “of these remote living residents who claim to see UFOs at night are simply not using the tool between their ears to figure this stuff out.”  [source: UFO sightings at Stonefield Beach reveal strange boxes up and down coast -HULIQ
 

And the astounding stupidity of those who blithely go up to the boxes, pets in tow, without a thought to the fact the boxes are glowing, and screeching, and just very odd. Either they contain ET or were ejected from UFOs, in which case it  seems like they might be dangerous, or they're radioactive debris -- or at least, an unknown something or another debris --  which means they're dangerous, (at least a good dose of potentially dangerous) material. Either way, not a bright idea to hang around the things.

I'm looking forward to finding out what I can once I get out there this weekend, but finding aliens? As much as I'd love that, it's very doubtful.

2012 McMinnville UFO Fest

The McMinnville UFO Fest returns this May. Speakers lined up include Donald R. Schmitt, (Friday night's speaker) author of UFO Crash at Roswell, etc. and hypnotist Yvonne Smith, (Saturday morning) who's worked with abductees. The third speaker has not yet been decided.

I'm mildly interested in Smith, but, unless the as yet unannounced speaker is someone way groovy, I don't think I'll go this year. The expense vs. the line-up doesn't even out.

But if you decide to go, have fun! The rooftop bar at Hotel Oregon and the parade are worth the visit, as is exploring the unique interior of the old hotel. More info here.

Linda Moultan Howe: Oregon Beach Metal Boxes

LMH at her earthfiles.com site reports on the glowing screeching metal boxes on Oregon beachers. There's no there there, according to Howe:

Earthfiles.com Headline News: February 14, 2012 - Oregon Beach Metal Boxes? No Evidence.

“I sent some assistants this weekend to the beach areas that are supposed
to have the ‘unmovable’ metal boxes and there is nothing there.”

- William Hanshumaker, Ph.D., Hatfield Marine Science Center, Newport, Oregon

Thanks to Mike Clelland at hidden experience for the alert.

More on those Wailing Beach Boxes

Another item on the strange metal boxes that have apparently abruptly appeared on Oregon beaches. Many witnesses say these are connected with UFOs, the boxes emit a strange sound, and there doesn't seem to be any way to open them. (I'm not sure I'd want to open one; mysterious origin, glowing and "keening" are characteristics I'd be wary of) Strange Metal Boxes — From Where?

(Speaking of strange metal boxes on the beach, I've asked my mother if she had heard anything about them (she lives on the coast.) She hadn't heard a thing, but offered to ask neighbors and locals... I'll be going out there this weekend.)

Thanks to Lesley at The Debris Field for link.

Sinister Orbs?

My new Trickster's Realm is now up at Tim Binnall's Binnall of America.

Are orange orbs negative "entities?" Read more here.

The UFO Trail: The Leah Haley Case: The Eglin Expedition

Always thoughtful Jack Brewer continues his research into the experiences of Leah Haley:The UFO Trail: The Leah Haley Case: The Eglin Expedition Haley's experiences have been an interest of mine for several years, so I'm always interested in any developments or theories concerning her encounters.

As some readers know, Haley's comments a few months ago on alien abductions, MILABS and mind control caused controversy within the UFO community. Since I'm not Haley, nor anyone else who's experienced alien abductions, I can't, and won't, say that she is or is not "right." Or, "wrong."

But it's all very interesting and important -- the data is there, the information is there, and all that the rest of us can do is familiarize ourselves with these theories and respectfully consider the information, holding it up against all the other huge shimmering, nebulous pieces of the puzzle.

Elgin Beach and Gulf Breeze "Coincidences"
In his article Brewer discusses Haley's 1991 Elgin experience. For details on that I encourage you to read his article for yourselves. But one thing that is obvious is the fact that Elgin Air Force Base is in the Gulf Breeze area, home of the Ed Walters UFO sightings. Can't be a coincidence.

Brewer is aware of this and goes on to ask very important questions concerning UFO events in that area. If you think aliens were afoot down there, think again.

There is a great deal to be studied and considered about the Gulf Breeze saga. I have now spent years researching certain aspects of how Gulf Breeze relates to the Leah Haley Case, and I can tell you without question I have barely scratched the surface.

ETs/Mind Control/The Others
It seems to me the UFO world is often pathologically divided as to what the answer is concerning UFOs. I think the first problem is that some expect there to be an answer. After all these years it's assumed "it's all ET," "all ultra terrestrials" "all ..."  I think it's obvious it's seemingly complex, often downright convoluted, than that. It's all of those things, and the trick is determining which one is at play at the time of any given event. And often, the question isn't "which one?" but "which ones?"

I'm not sure why the "Mufonians" as Brewer refers to them (I love that) and others continue to reject the idea that human factions are involved in manipulating the UFO phenomena and abusing citizens as part of that manipulation. I'm not talking about the use of cover stories concerning classified planes; I mean the tin foil hat wearing stuff. By calling it "tin foil hat wearing stuff" the rogue and dark aspects of government-industrial-"scientific" invasions into our lives remains trivialized; an embarrassment to UFO researchers, and easy derision by "skeptics" and debunkers. (Who don't count but they're irritating nonetheless.)

Was Leah Haley the victim of insidious human interference? Other abductees have said as much over the years as well. Yet other abductees insist their experiences are literal and very, very real.  As I noted above, why not both? If that's true -- that both exist concurrently -- it certainly adds to the confusion and disinformation, which then causes dissension among witnesses and researchers. .

Humming Boxes on Oregon Beaches

More reports of humming metal boxes appearing on the Oregon coast:UFO sightings reveal more strange metal boxes along coastal beaches | HULIQ

At first look it seems very likely these boxes are debris from Japan. But there is the typical "wait there's more" anomalous elements that ties these boxes in with UFOs, at least according to the this article. Referring to the photo accompanying the article of one of these boxes at Bray's Point, Oregon, it's noted the boxes have been seen before:

The photograph that accompanies this report – taken during the afternoon of Feb. 8 near Bray’s Point -- of yet another strange metal box stuck in the surf up is one of a possible group of a dozen or more that have been sited up and down West Coast beaches. Meanwhile, the British government also photographed similar huge metal boxes on beaches in Sri Lanka in the late 1990’s and in early 2004 and 2005. The discovery of the boxes is detailed in updated previously classified reports from the British government that document sightings of unidentified flying objects by both the military and the general public dating back to the 1950s.

According to the coastal UFO researchers, there's been an increase in UFO sightings recently, coinciding with the boxes.

The boxes are heavy -- "not movable" -- ring, or hum, glow, and coincide with UFO sightings.
While I have no idea what these are of course, it seems irresponsible to go up to these boxes and touch them or attempt to move them.

Related posts:
UFO Sightings at Stonefield Beach
Stonefield Beach, Stormy Day and UFO?

Archaeology, UFOs, & Aliens - Shows - Coast to Coast AM

Michael Cremo is tonight's guest on C2C:Archaeology, UFOs, & Aliens - Shows - Coast to Coast AM