Friday, August 24, 2007

Kimball on Redfern

I started to respond to this item by Paul Kimball on his blog The Other Side of Truth about Nick Redfern, Nick Redfern on UFOlogy but it quickly became very long so I’m putting it here.

Kimball has a response to Nick Redfern’s contention that:
I predict that ufology will never be anymore than a subject that attracts a few thousand people on a regular basis (and maybe less now).

Many ufologists confidently think that the world is waiting for them to finally deliver the ET goods and go down in history.

They’re not. Most people outside could not care less about the petty arguments in ufology (and don’t know about it anyway) and unless someone really makes a major breakthrough (along the lines of proving that Roswell was ET, for example), we will not be remembered by science, the media or the public.

I've been saying this for ever: the one, final Answer, The big Answer, about ufos will never come. Never. It just can't, (in my opinion, partly due to the Trickster like aspects of the phenomena.)
Redfern goes on to say that if that answer comes, if it’s shown that ET does exist, science and the general population will forget about UFO researchers, pundits, etc:
In other words, we’ll be viewed as a group of people who looked into some unusual areas in search of the truth about aliens, but never really found any hard evidence that proved ET was visiting.

Ironically, if ET really does land, I personally think that ufology will be swept away in an instant as the public demands answers from the media, who in turn demand answers [sic] from the government and the mainstream scientific community.

(I agree with this, and I think the same would be true in the case of Bigfoot, Nessie, etc. If a dead BF body were found, if it were announced by science BF does indeed, exist, the same attitude towards BF researchers would be present.)

Kimball writes:
So, in the meantime, everyone should focus on the intriguing mystery, and have some fun, because that's what mysteries should be - fun.

This means that there should be room for some of the more "out there" theories (FYI - as far as the mainstream is concerned, that includes the ETH), even to the point of speculation. Where would I draw the line? When people are clearly lying, or when the theories and speculation goes so far as to be preposterous, at which point let 'em have it.

Exactly. some sort of inner journey-process thing going on for some us. And, I agree, if they do land and it's somehow proven UFOs exist (more to the point, that ET exists) UFO researchers will be ignored. They might be trotted out now and then for some entertainment value, but no one's going to really take them seriously; they'll be co-opted and appropriated. Used by the media and institiutions such as science for their own purposes. (The same would happen in the case of Bigfoot or Nessie.)
The public would be interested, as Alfred Lehmberg wrote in his comment to this item on Paul’s blog, and in that sense, the "folk" will jump in, but, being just the folk, no one's going to care. The institutions of science, academia, etc. aren’t going to bother with what will still be considered the fringe element. Even as it’s discovered that ET exists, there will still be areas of ufology that will fascinate, while ignored by the mainstream.

Years ago a professor of folklore told me that if ET were to land tomorrow, “it wouldn’t matter.” I didn’t understand what she meant at the time; what do mean, “It wouldn’t matter??!!” Of course it’d matter! What she meant was, in the context of folklore, it wouldn’t matter. People would still have their stories, the “folk” would continue to be marginalized by the mainstream and the approved institutions, individuals would still have their experiences. Various rituals, beliefs, and processes would evolve surrounding the discovery of ET, and take on their own flavor due to cultures and religious/spiritual beliefs. Even though ET has now been proven as a reality, various and new “realities” would quickly spring up surrouding ET, and it would start all over.

This doesn’t mean, as Kimball writes, we still can’t “have fun,” and for some of us, it’s more than “fun” (though it certainly is that too) it’s very personal on many levels. But that depends on how each of us is wired; we’re all of different temperaments.

It doesn’t matter to me that it will be highly unlikely we’ll ever find “the answer” because that’s not the purpose of this journey. (And, as I said, by definition it can’t happen anyway due to the Trickster aspect.)

So where does all this leave the “nuts and bolts” researchers? Those who work so tirelessly and do their best (most of them) to produce documents, evidence, facts of a case, to show the world? Nothing short of a dead body (be it ET or Bigfoot) that’s been independently verified by a whole slew of scientists will prove anything to the world. And then what? We’ll go on as before, except those of us who, as I mentioned, do this for other reasons other than “proving” something to others. Those diligent researchers will be trotted out as well as entertainment value, footnotes to the big reveal of ET.

That’s okay though, as cynical as it sounds. There’s the outsider element when the truth is concerned in “fringe” topics, and UFOlogy is no different. These same kinds of responses to Ufologists and Ufology apply to the Kennedy assassination and 9/11. If it were somehow proven to the world that the so-called “conspiracy nuts” were right about those things, they’d be briefly mentioned before once again sent back to the fringe while the approved pundits of society argue over minutae on CNN.

That’s just the way things are. It’s okay. After all, I’m having fun.

Tuesday, August 21, 2007

Yeah, I Get That A Lot




I'm not complaining, much, after all, I'll take any free publicity that comes my way, good or bad. I ignore the bad (or try my best to) and take the good.

The goodly Anomalist very nicely put a link and blurb in today's edition for my "Finding Sasquatch" piece on Binnall of America/Trickster's Realm. For that I thank them.

But just so everyone knows, I'm not a "he" I'm a "she." I don't know why this mistake is made a lot, but it is. It might be because of the name Regan -- it's also a man's name. But, it's also a woman's name. It might be because I often use "R. Lee" to sign off with, though I don't see why that would make people think I'm a guy. So I've included some photos of myself to prove to everyone I really am a chick.

I've been "accused" by a troll/psychoid-skeptoid or two in the past of "wanting to be like a man, and "writing like a man" and while that's very funny, it also points to their thick headed misogyny.


In the case of the Anomalist, I just think it's a matter of them being very busy and not having or taking the time to notice the rest of my blogs, or the blurbs around my columns elsewhere, etc.

With a few others, they're obviously idiots.

Mostly though it's just an honest mistake. So for the record, I'm not a "he" I'm a chick. Check out my blog "Mating Hedgehogs" if you have any doubt, lol.

Monday, August 20, 2007

Orb Roundup

It's time for blatant shameless self-promotion and reminders:

  • In the current issue of UFO Magazine, I share my thoughts on the Triangle UFOs. No conclusions, just musings. (Of course, if I, or anyone, had conclusions, there'd be no mystery.)

  • Frame 352: The Stranger Side of Sasaquatch, my Bigfoot blog.

  • Mating Hedgehogs, my other blog on: media, culture, sex, para-politics, Dr. Evils, Forteana, esoterica, paranoia, Genetic Food Manipulations, animal rights and welfare, art, feminism, Americana, and whatever else I feel like.

  • For Trickster's Realm on Binnall of America: Finding Sasquatch.

  • I'm also around on UFO Digest and American Chronicle.
  • Sunday, August 19, 2007

    Lesley for Grey Matters: Money in the Sky (Part 2) : The Pointless Point

    Lesley (Debris Field blog, and Beyond the Dial in UFO magazine) has a good piece for her Grey Matters column for BoA: Money in the Sky (Part 2) : The Pointless Point. Lesley writes about the “they’re only in it for the money” line many scofftoids (and some UFO people, sadly) use to dismiss people who write about UFOs and happen to make money.

    “Make money;” it doesn't matter how much money, if that “making money” is a few dollars here and there or enough to make ones living from. The latter is rare, I suspect. I write like the hepped up caffeine junkie I am about UFOs and related phenomena, but so far, I haven’t made a cent. So what? When the day comes that I do make “some money” I’ll be happy of course, but I’m happy now too. The point is, as Lesley writes, is that there is nothing wrong with “making money” from writing about these topics. However, there are plenty of the “UFOlogy Police” (as Lesley calls them) who spend their time attacking those who “make money’ or who they suspect “make money” from their UFO books, videos, and lectures.

    Another comment Lesley makes is about humor. Lesley discusses UFO experiencer, writer and filmmaker Jeremy Vaeni -- one of the accused “money makers” -- and how some have added the sin of having a sense of humor to his crime of money making. I’ve been attacked for my sense of humor as well; in fact, I believe that those who’ve gone after me with such psychotic vengeance is the fact that UFO pundits aren't supposed to crack wise. And women especially aren’t supposed to be so damn cheeky.

    I don’t know Jeremy personally, never having met him, but we’ve corresponded quite a bit, including an interview he did of me for UFO Magazine (Grilling Regan Lee) and I’ve always been impressed with his humor. He comes across as quirky, sure, but quirky is good, and there isn’t enough of it. More importantly (for we all can’t be quirky; you either are or you’re not) he is his own damn self. He’s not afraid to be who he is, doesn't pretend to be anything other than himself. That’s all anyone can expect in this arena: honesty.

    As to “making money,” I doubt Vaeni is going to be moving to that villa in Tuscany any time soon.

    This whole idea that “making money” from one’s UFO passion - and that it somehow proves the individual is lying -- is ridiculous.

    I loved Lesley’s comment regarding this faux moral concern:

    ”What is Ufology? The Priesthood? You must give up all your worldly good and take a vow of poverty? Maybe you also need to promise to only bath once a year and crawl around your house through broken glass? Ridiculous!”


    There are those -- way too many -- who have blogs and websites that write incessantly about how people who write about UFOs are wasting time. Apparently we;re wasting their time, our time, everyone's time. The irony escapes them: that they’re wasting time telling everyone else how much time we’re wasting. But they also can’t resist reading the material they judge to be crap. Rather than ignoring such “crap” and doing something productive, they attack, often going so far as to lie about the people they’re attacking. They harp on the “truth” and decide that they’re the ones able to judge. They insist material such as abduction accounts be classified as fiction, instead of nonfiction. True, there’s no ultimate “proof” of these encounters, which is a whole other topic, but here’s something Lesley said about this that I think is very important:

    "I hate to sound all anarchist, but why should we be so concerned about whether something is true? If we find the story thought provoking, does it really matter if it is true? There are certain fiction books that have influenced my entire life, not because they were true, but because the values I learned from them are true and because they caused me to think about things that are beyond my ordinary daily life. I am not really terribly concerned about what Jeremy or anyone else says being completely true or accurate, I am more concerned about whether it is interesting and whether I can learn anything from it. Since I look at almost all Ufology as being subjective, none of it is really true. If dozens of people had the same esoteric experience, the chances that most would interpret it differently is highly likely. Even if they all agree that they saw the same thing, many will take different meanings from what they saw. This is not only true of esoteric events, ask any policeman about robbery witnesses. One person will swear it was a blue shirt the guy was wearing, while another insists that is was green. Both of these people will be completely sure they are right and the other is wrong. Human minds interpret things differently, that is just how it is.”

    And it all gets down to this: for those that find some sort of twisted joy in attacking UFO and Fortean writers, Lesley suggests the following:
    "Besides which, if they are so sure that they know the truth, then they should spread it, instead of spending their time sitting at their keyboard constantly griping about what others are doing.”

    Excellent advice.

    Thursday, August 16, 2007

    A Post Script on UFO Magazine Trianlge Article

    The new issue of UFO Magazine is out. As usual, lots there, I'm looking forward to reading Farah Yurdozo's article on Adamski and Nazis. Yes! Haven't read the article, but it will prove to be very interesting. I've wondered for years about the Contactee movement and how there is a lot below the dichotomy of "they're nuts-lairs"/"they really did see ET".

    My article on Black Triangles and the Trickster is in this issue as well. In the article I asked why the triangle hasn't changed in the many decades they've been present? You'd think that, over time and with their technology, they'd have changed quite a bit.

    After the article, someone mentioned to me that there might be a couple of reasons why they haven't changed. We have ships; they really haven't changed much over several decades. If the triangle occupants are ET, time travel is a possibility: what may take a few hours in their life may seem like years in ours. I don't mesh with the idea of time travel; but who knows.

    Another possibility: maybe they have changed, but they've changed to such a degree we don't recognize them as being triangles or related to triangles in any way. If that's so however, why use the triangles -- unless, as we do, use of older machines is still done.

    All highly speculative of course. But it keeps me off the streets.

    Tuesday, August 7, 2007

    John Greenwald Jr. Item on Yahoo News

    I was surprised but pleased to see a UFO related article on the Yahoo News Page. . . a nice big headline, with photo. This is about the great work John Greenwald Jr. (of Black Vault) does in gathering government documents for the rest of us. Remember, John does this for free, too. Any support you can send his way I'm sure he'd appreciate.

    Sunday, August 5, 2007

    Mary as Trickster?

    I ponder. On UFO Digest: Speculation on Mary as Trickster.

    Zetetic Scholar on-line

    You can order some issues of Zetetic Scholar from George Hansen's website:
    Trickster and the Paranormal.

    UFOexperiences blog: On the (UFO) Road Again

    From Aileen Garoutte's UFOexperiences blog, an unnerving story of one young man's UFO sighting. In this case, it isn't the UFO itself that's so unnvering:
    38. MARK - ON THE (UFO) ROAD AGAIN
    The following case has no involvement with MUFON but it is a case that represents the most blatant kind of injustice we have ever encountered. We were given the case in 1988 and at the time of writing this book, we are actively engaged in finding some recourse for the victim. I say victim because that is what he surely was - and is.

    Saturday, August 4, 2007

    Psychic Peter James Passes

    This is sad news; I just came across this link on the Yahoo group Fortean Phenomena Again. Must have missed it earlier.
    http://www.sdparanormal.com/articles/article/1961531/84130.htm

    Sasquatch Inside Mt. Shasta

    Over on Frame 352 (my bigfoot blog) is a post on Sasquatch Inside Mt. Shasta.

    Friday, August 3, 2007

    UFO Semantics, Part Two

    “Do you believe in UFOs?” is often asked. (Also “Do you believe in Bigfoot?”, “Do you believe in flying saucers?”, “Do you believe in aliens?” etc.)

    UFOs exist. You can’t “believe” that they do, or even hold the opinion that they do. Or, that they do not. They do, the same as cars and houses and toasters and dogs and cats and microwaves exist. “Belief” has nothing to do with it.

    One can believe that extraterrestrials exist. I believe they do. I’ve never seen an alien, and my opinion, which admittedly verges on “belief” or at least, a very strong opinion, is based on a life long journey of data collecting, and, I suppose, a bit of faith. Nothing wrong with the latter whatsoever. I’m not saying it’s fact, and I have no desire or need to prove anything to anyone.

    Still, even though I may “believe” that extraterrestrials -- or some sort of entities, extraterrestrials or other -- exist, I don’t believe in them. There’s a very huge and very important distinction between the two: believing that a thing exists, and believing in that thing.

    If ET exists (or whatever entity) I wouldn’t “believe” in it. Any more than I believe in my cat. Or my stove.

    While there are those who have created religions around ET, believing that they are a new form of “God” usually in the Judeo-Christian framework, the use of the word belief can’t be used so carelessly, and that belief can’t be assumed.
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    My Brother’s Big Fat Mexican Korean Jewish White Beverly Hills Wedding

    Nothing to do with UFOs or the paranormal, unless you consider me sitting in the bar at the Four Seasons in Beverly Hills paranormal, but I just got back from a road trip (nothing like going down to L.A. on I-5 from Eugene, Oregon with your mother) for my brother’s wedding.

    Overall, despite ridiculously pathetic family drama here and there, I’m glad I went, and am very happy for my brother and his beautiful bride. L.A. was fine, and all was good. I loved walking along the beaches; Long Beach, Venice, the Marina. My fantasy of living on a houseboat came back each time I walked by the boats at the docks. The smog has improved down there; last time I was down there was about six years ago or so. Although, I stayed mainly on the coast; and not in Hollywood, etc. so those areas might still be bad. The area has worked hard on improving air quality though and reducing smog.

    Even though I had my laptop, it was hard to write much, so not much posting went on, though I managed here and there.

    I’m back now in Oregon, where you don’t pump your own gas, there’s no sales tax, and the drivers remain rude and terrible. California drivers may be crazy, but they’re controlled crazy, and far more polite than Oregonian drivers. (Oregonian drivers believe it’s their constitutional right to: tailgate, run red lights, ignore use of the turn signal, and either go painfully slow at or below the speed limit, or bizarrely fast, exceeding it beyond all reason.)

    Back to our regular programming.

    Thursday, August 2, 2007

    Randi's "Hot News"

    Oy. Must have been a slow news day for Randi,who, in his recent JREF newsletter, has an item captioned Hot News" on Uri Geller's name, as if this is some deep dark earth shattering revelation.

    New things at Mating Hedgehogs

    Bought myself the "U.S. vs. John Lennon" CD; in honor of that, there's a few things over on the Mating Hedgehogs blog related to Lennon, ufos, and mind control. There's also a poll; take a look, vote.

    Fatima Oracle Cards

    Arrived while I was gone. I mentioned the other day I wasn't that keen on the design of the Fatima oracle cards, but they're not that bad, kind of interesting. To my surprise, I liked using them. Can't always tell just by the art work and appearance of divination cards; you have to use them, go by other factors as well. For example, I wanted to like the "Mermaid" deck but after handling it I actually found it creepy, and didn't buy it.

    The Fatima deck has 32 cards; very simple.

    Sunday, July 29, 2007

    UFO Semantics, Part One

    UFO Semantics, Part One

    Either through outright, intentional obtuseness in the case of pathological skeptics, or lazy journalism habits of media people, the question “Do UFOs exist?” continues to be asked. (Variations include statements such as: "UFOs don't exist," etc.)

    UFO means unidentified flying object. Unidentified.
    We have proof of the existence of UFOs through photographs, video, film, and eye witness reports. A huge amount of data gathered from all over the world.

    This data has consistently shown (proven) that unidentified flying objects are in our skies.

    What is there to debate? Nothing. If UFO means “unidentified flying object,” and you have a photograph/video/film/report of an unidentified thing, how can anyone who is rational and sane, deny what is in front of them? And what’s in front of them is an unidentified something.

    All the rest: assumptions about extraterrestrials, or psychological manifestations of unintegrated mystical experiences, or government mind control via staged UFO events, etc. are just that: assumptions.

    Anyone who denies that “UFOs exist” isn’t paying attention, are guilty of making assumptions, play games with semantics and are often disingenuous in their insistence that “UFOs don’t exist.” (as with skeptwoos.)

    Wednesday, July 25, 2007

    Orange Orbs

    After I saw my orange orb in the 1980s (here in Oregon) I searched for years in UFO books, etc. for something that was similar to what I saw. But I didn't find anything. I still haven't found anything, but I've found things that come close. Of course, it's difficult to get an accurate idea, since all I have to go on are the one or two images of someone's orange orb UFO. There's no way to get a good overview based on that. Still, it's interesting when I find things that sound, and look, close to what I saw.

    This one, also seen in Oregon, from the Coast to Coast site. Tehre's a comparison with another similar orb UFO.http://www.coasttocoastam.com/gen/page1385.html?theme=light

    This site has several images of UFOs in the Vegas area. Scroll down to the orange image he calls an "orange cheerio."

    These images of orbs show different colored orbs, including yellowish orange.

    Some of the orbs on these sites date to the 1970s, 1980s. Some are recent.