Sunday Orb

The weeks go by too quickly! And when you work a full time job it’s difficult to spend the time you’d like with the realm of the weird. Here’s what’s been going on this past week:

New Blog: Women in Esoterica
I started a new blog: Women in Esoterica. Kind of clunky and too stuffy a title, I’ll probably change it soon.

My next lTrickster’s Realm article for Binnall of America should be up some time tomorrow; it’s on the new blog Women in Esoterica and why I started it.

Marian Apparition
I came across a good article on UFO Digest on a Marian Apparition. The writer’s name is Richelle Hawks and the article is The Virgin Tree of Salt Lake City


Ghost Photo Contest
I think Lesley is about to end the contest, if it isn’t ended already. Hurry over and see if it you can still submit a ghost photo.

The Zorgy Awards
Paul Kimball of The Other Side of Truth has decided to run his Zorgy Award campaign again. He’s taking nominations now. Categories include best UFO blob, best paranormal website, and many more. I came in third last year, much to my amazement. There are many great UFO blogs out there, but hey, I’ll ask anyway. Nominate me!

UFO Mystic
Two interesting articles on UFOs; what the phenomena is, how we should expand our thinking, over on UFO Mystic, Nick Redfern’s item on Steiger’s Shadow World book. Also Greg Bishop's piece on “objectivity.”

Book of Thoth
On The Book of Thoth is my piece on what I think UFOs are doing up there. They Want to be Seen, Not Discovered.

Book
I’m working away on a compilation to be an e-book of articles on skepticism. TBA.

UFO Magazine
My next article for UFO Magazine is on the expectations of disclosure.

Bigfoot
Lots of interesting things on Bigfoot, from sightings to escaped invisible Bigfoot from Livermore labs. This is an old story but reposted over at Cryptomundo in context of the Blogsquatcher’s post on the “lost” CBS footage of a captured Bigfoot in the 1960s. The Blogsquatcher by the way is a new Bigfoot blog that seems to be a very good one.

There's probably more, but I really should try to be responsible and get back in the “real” world and do things like housework. I also have a deadline (like, today) on my next piece for UFO Magazine. (this one on data.)

Have a good week, be safe, be kind, but don’t let the bastards grind you down.

Yoko Ono: About The IMAGINE PEACE TOWER.

Happy Birthday John.
Peace.

Too Many Blogs?

Too Many Blogs?

We all know that because of the ease, access to computers and low expense, anyone can have a blog. Lots of people do and it isn’t any different when it comes to UFOs, the paranormal and the overall esoteric. (I have five blogs myself.)

Some within UFO research think this is a bad thing, and certainly those outside on the fringe looking in (pathological skeptics, scofftoids, etc) think so. With the latter, their response is that all UFO blogs are created by blithering kooks, except for their blogs, because they’re not blithering kooks; they make fun of blithering kooks.

There are “too many blogs” but that’s not a bad thing. It just means I don’t have the time I’d like to read them all and write about them when I find something interesting. For every one blog I might mention or use as inspiration, there are about ten that I just haven’t had the time to really explore the way I’d like.

It’s natural some of these blogs are worthless, or just coming from a weird place. Some of these, in my opinion, are blogs by “known” people who should know better. They’re either mind numbingly narrow in their thinking, or scorchingly arrogant, while others are just weird. But all UFO blogs (and I’m don’t mean anti-UFO blogs; those chronic persistent skeptics that love to bash everyone else) are a positive thing, including the ones I or you may find off, annoying, boring or even silly.

It’s positive because people are taking the phenomenon seriously enough to spend time on-line sharing their thoughts, experiences and research. The more voices the better.

So I don’t complain that there are “too many UFO/paranormal blogs” and call for some sort of cleansing of the blogosphere. Anytime anyone is willing to put themselves out there about their views on Bigfoot, or UFOs, or the goblin universe we live in, it adds one more little squeaky wheel to the Big Picture.

Women in Esoterica

I started a new blog: Women in Esoterica. The title's too stuffy for my taste, but at least it gets the idea across. Also, do we want Women and Esoterica, Women of Estoerica, etc.

I'll write more on the whys and whats of the blog in my next Trickster's Realm column for Binnall of America, which help be up sometime on Monday.

"They Want to be Seen, Not Discovered"

My recent piece, this time on The Book of Thoth site. "They Want to be Seen, Not Discovered," about the classic question: what the hell are UFOs doing, anyway?

Ghost Photo Contest

Reminder to enter your ghost photo at Lesley's (Debris Field, Beyond the Dial,) ghost photo contest blog.

I think this was in response to my post on the "blimp" or thumping UFO video I posted here from Venezuala. Intereting comments, and thanks to Dimitris for the info.

I was intrigued by the possible parallels between the "alien" beings
described in the Caponi Italy 1993 / Varginha Brazil 1996 cases and the
*amphibian *beings described in various mythologies, e.g.

1/ the "Nommos" of African tribe Dogon in Mali. The word Nommos is
derived from a Dogon word meaning, "to make one drink," The Nommos are
usually described as amphibious, hermaphroditic, fish-like creatures.
Folk art depictions of the Nommos show creatures with humanoid upper
torsos, legs/feet, and a fish-like lower torso and tail.

2/ the pre-Sharun cultures of modern day Iraq contacts with amphibious
being known as Oannes (ref: works of Berossus, a priest who was the
first person known to have collected those fertile crescent encounter
stories in his Babyloniaka, a history of Babylon).

A few days ago, I stumbled upon Youtube's clip of a (spanish
production?) documentary on greek TV about the Dogons, which
unfortunately was broadcast translated, rather than subtitled (which
tends to cause further distortion). In that documentary, there is info
about the Nommos, which e.g. describe the Nommos having red eyes, three
fingers and breathe through a place in (our) stomach area. See
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nElS5k9hP0

Look at the Caponi story & pictures at
http://www.ufologie.net/htm/caponi.htm
http://www.ufologie.net/htm/caponipics.htm

Notice the place the "tubes" go in is in the stomach area.

Notice things which suggest the Caponi-being desires water, as Caponi's
testimony suggests:

/"The being had always appeared with gauze around the legs, and
something similar to leather on its back, but this time it did not
wear its covering anymore, but appeared with two tubes on the thorax
that seemed to slightly move under its skin, like from air or liquid
pressure, or some fluid, I don't know, maybe for its respiration.
The small tubes both moved rhythmically. And an other important
thing: *I was convinced that the _body was wet, it drained water, it
dripped_*. But not much. From its head, water passed beside the eyes
like some sweat. I want to emphasize that that evening my sister had
also heard the noises, on the small terrace of our house, where my
father had *two drums in which he put water for watering the
flowers. We have thought that perhaps it had gone to bathe itself.
The drums were supposed to be full, but instead one was half empty.
Maybe during the night, it had "undressed", dipped in a drum*,
washed, and jumped from the terrace, producing the noise of a jump
in water that my sister heard." /

Also, apparently the Caponi being is wearing a jumpsuit and "helmet" in
all but the last photo. The only time when it's seen without its
"coveralls/jumpsuit" was on 20-Sep-1993 which was a _*rainy*_ night.

The Varginha case witnesses talk about "oily (wet/glistering?) brown
skin", "very small hands with three fingers", "huge veins running down
its neck" (perhaps the tubes seen in Caponi's photos?). There is a
different in the description of length of arms and legs, but the being
seen by the 3 girls at Varginha was seen in "kneeling" position (which
incidentally is also how Caponi's sketch depicts it).

American medical doctor Dr. Roger Leir traveled to Brazil in 2003 and
interviewed a Varginha doctor who said he examined one of the aliens.
The physician observed "reticulated skin," which though smooth, showed
the outlines of scales, as well as a "claw-like appendage," Leir
recounted (src: C2C interviews on 29-Aug-2004 and 22-May-2005). My
*Question: would this "claw-like appendage" be at the lower limb /
"thigh" area?* (see pic)

There are many Web pages on the Caponi and Varginha cases, I list
several sources in my UFO-occupants page at
http://www.hyper.net/ufo/occupants.html

Please feel free to forward/share/re-mix this to anyone.

Regards from Greece,
Dimitris Hatzopoulos

Sunday Orb

Shameless Pleadings

Read my Bigfoot blog. Link to it, Favorite it on Technorati, talk about it. Leave comments. Enjoy. Or even if you don’t.

My Bigfoot blog Frame 352: The Stranger Side of Sasquatch.

And Shameless Self-Promotion:
I’ve submitted a piece to the Book of Thoth site: They Want to be Seen, Not Discovered. No guarantee it will be accepted, but hopefully it will be, so look out for it.

On UFO Digest is my piece
Disingenuous Infiltration on the unethical tactics of Abdullah Hashem and Donna Bassett. Yes, both are “old news” but that doesn’t mean anything.

Currently on Trickster’s Realm for Tim Binnall’s Binnall of America is my piece on the Trickster: No Mere Prankster. (and I must say I was very jazzed about Brad Steiger's nice email to me about the piece.)

In the current issue of UFO Magazine is my article on The Purple Road, about my New Agey self.

Ghost Picture Contest
Lesley of The Debris Field has her ghost pic contest going again. I entered a photo I took a few years ago at a local cemetery. Be sure to enter; it will be fun to see all the ghostly images!

Recent Orb Postings


I'm still reeling from Noory's Flintstone comment.
The UFO footage from Venezuela does seem too good to be true, as one person commented, it could be a blimp. Whatever, it's unlikely it was a flying saucer from outer space.

Noory, Meet the Flintstones

Remember when Jeremy Vaeni was a guest on C2C with host George Noory, and that now infamous question: “How do you know it wasn’t an angel?” (Something to that effect) was posed by Noory?

Poor Jeremy had just related, in very forthright and clear terms, an experience he had with a UFO. A craft. And Noory, out of the blue, all he can find to say is, “How do you know it wasn’t an angel?”

A pin dropping was heard throughout the land that night, my friend.

Last night Noory did a similar thing, but not so bad. He had open lines and a woman caller related her story of being taken to Venus where she saw both the grays and the reptilians. The grays were all right, but the reptilians were terrifying. Anyway, she had to get out of there because the poisonous air and gases on Venus was starting to get to her, which is quite understandable. I hear it’s quite hot up there.

The woman mentioned that this was some time ago, and that the grays looked like what Barney and Betty HIll saw. Noory then asked if she thought the characters Barney and Betty from the Flinstones were named after the Hills! That struck me as very funny. Maybe it was all the cold medication I’ve been talking lately but I just about fell out of bed at the surrealness of that question.

Barney and Betty Hill had their abduction experience in 1961. The Flintstones aired from 1960 to 1966. There was an alien introduced to the series in October of 1965: “The Great Gazoo” was a little green man from outer space who crash landed on earth in his flying saucer. What I find interesting is that only a few could see Gazoo; only Fred, Barney and the children saw him.


I don’t know what motivated the creators of The Flintstones to introduce Gazoo; some sources call it the moment when the show “jumped the shark.” That’s possible, or maybe it was one of those disinfo/programming campaigns by psy ops. Or someone’s vision of blending visions of America’s space program with a popular children’s show. Any number of reasons, or any number of combinations of reasons.

A bit of the trickster is seen here as well, for Gazoo thinks little of humans, tries to help Fred and Barney out anyway, but ends up making things worse. And of course, only Barney and Fred, and the kids, can see the alien. As Gazoo tells Fred and Barney in one episode, after not showing up earlier to help them as promised: “I”m not only undependable, but I’m a bit of a kook.” Gazoo does tell them he’ll try to help them, but for Fred and Barney to “be careful for what you ask for, you might get it.”


Gazoo didn’t appear in any Flintstone spin-offs, but according to the entry on Wikipedia, he is a Flintstone vitamin, has appeared as a promotional character for a contest, and is “the mascot for Marshmallow Mania Pebbles cereal.” (Wikipedia.) There is also a Great Gazoo Wacky Wobbler toy you can buy. (Which of course I have to get.)

I’d forgotten about Gazoo; when I was a kid, I thought he was kind of neat, but didn’t see how it really fit. The whole thing was disconcerting. I liked the Flintstones and have good memories of watching the program.

To your right on the side menu, at the top, is a feed from YouTube on Gazoo Flintstone episodes. Have a look, and have fun.

Sources:
Wikipedia

Great Gazoo Wacky Wobbler

Giant UFO in Los Roques Venezuela

I don’t know what to make of this video clip of a UFO out of Los Roques, Venezuela. At one point it seems the object hits the roof of a building as it goes over. It seems it’s making a sound, unusual for UFOs. And I’m always suspicious of any time there’s video of a UFO; the camera is tracking the sky, why? There’s no context here. Still, it’s interesting enough to take a look. However, Venezuela does have a lot of UFO activity.

Orb Roundup

Busy week, as always, when you have to work because fate hasn’t seen fit to magically endow you with an independent income.

Stephn Yulish and Trickster
Stephen Yulish, who writes frequently for UFO Digest, emailed me a response to my email where I expressed my dissatisfaction on his article. Naturally I disagreed with him, but what had me bothered wasn't his point of view, it was the idea that some may think I represented my views on trickster behavior as “demonic.” He was short but polite, and said he hadn't ‘t intended for that to occur.

UFO Magazine (er, the actual magazine)
The new issue of UFO magazine is out, I haven’t had a chance to read it yet, it’s still on my night stand. My article is “The Purple Road” and about the mystical side of the individual as it relates to UFOs.

Lesley and Tina Sena: BoA
Two columns on Binnall of America that I’ve been meaning to comment on but haven’t had the time. The first is Lesley’s Grey Matters, and her views on science and UFOlogy in UFOlogy is not science, he second is Tina Sena’s Esoterica, and her article Think Positive. Both good reading.

Ghost Picture Contest
Lesley, of Debris Field, Beyond the Dial, etc. has her ghost picture contest going again this year. I entered; sent her a pic I took a few years ago here in Oregon at a cemetery.

Sasquatch Blog
Take a look at my Bigfoot blog Frame 352: The Stranger Side of Sasquatch.

There’s more, there’s always more. But that will have to do for now.

Oregon UFO

Aileen Garoutte, of
UFOexperiences blog (an excellent blog of straight forward UFO reporting; I don’t think she gets enough credit) reports on an Oregon sighting.

This one from the Lake Oswego area (Portland area) and concerns a “black saucer shape (d)” UFO. One thing I find interesting is that the witness said to her companion “that this would be a good place for a UFO to land. “ right before the sighting.

Garoutte by the way is past Director of The UFO Contact Center International.

Kithra's Krystal Kave

New blog; she has a website, which is where I found her. She had a good piece on the Cornish Owlman that I quoted. Kithra very nicely responded; she's knowledgeable about a lot of things. She's started a blog.

She writes on UFOs but all kinds of things, cryptids to be sure; very interesting.

Hysterical about hysteria

In Hysterical about hysteria, the author comments on the somewhat suspicious insistence of scientists and authorities that the noxious fumes experienced by witnesses to Peru’s recent “thing that crashed from the sky” was “mass hysteria.”
Instead of actually treating the witnesses with respect and interest, they’re dismissed. As he writes:

Whoa, time out. Geologists say that meteorites can't cause people to become sick, therefore the people must be delusional. Isn't that putting the theory before the observation? It's also a little weird that the "large number" of reports is used to cast doubt on them. In most areas of science, a large number increases our confidence. Why can't we just say, There were reports of people reporting a flash in the sky and a big hole in the ground and getting sick, that's weird, so let's investigate.

Good point.

Hubby Sees a UFO

So we’re sitting there, watching television (Eureka) and during the commercial my spouse turns to me as and says “I saw a UFO today.” He was very pleased with himself. He went on to say that he noticed an odd “elongated speck” in the sky. A coworker saw it as well.

The “elongated speck” was traveling very fast: “How fast was it going?” “Hard to say, really fast.” “Was it going faster than a jet?” “Oh, yeah.” It was also very high up; higher than what he thought a plane would be.

He thought it might be a plane but he watched it for a while; no wings, etc. He didn’t see any marks, or what have you. It didn’t change direction, flew in a very fast south to north direction.

His point however, and he’s proud of himself for making this point known to said coworker, was that it was a UFO, since neither one of them could identify it and it’s a mystery as to what it was. But my husband also thinks it was either a plane of some type he just couldn’t see the wings, etc. or, some kind of satellite. In other words, a man made object of some type. Still, he semantically pointed out to his coworker, who admitted he didn’t have a clue as to what it was, it was a “UFO.”

The Owls are not what they seem

Sunday Orb Round Up

Is it Sunday again already? Grueling week, but at least it’s over. Having the Fall crud doesn’t help. Well, enough about me. Here’s some links and items I hope you’ll follow, because it’s mostly all about me. (I know, I just contradicted myself.)

Frame 352: The Stranger Side of Sasquatch
Visit my bigfoot blog Frame 352.Comments are welcome of course, as well as sightings and encounters, especially in Oregon or the Pacific Northwest. However, reports aren’t at all limited to Oregon or the PNW; sightings from all over the world are included.

The blog doesn’t completely ignore flesh and blood bigfoot, but the focus is on the paranormal, UFO and other high strangeness Bigfoot encounters from all over the world.

The Trickster is not Demonic
Stephen Yulish, a Christian UFO researcher and writer, wrote a piece inspired by my piece on Mary and Marian apparitions as Trickster manifestations. Yulish uses the terms Trickster and demonic interchangeably, and gives the impression I do as well.

I made it clear in this item on the OrangeOrb I do not consider the Trickster a “demonic” figure, not in a Christian framework, nor do I personally believe in the divinity of Christ, Mary, etc. I also do not consider the religious doctrine or a religion's text as proof, real, true, or factual. None of those things are things I “believe” in -- and specifically, not in a traditional, religious and mainstream way.

I need to make this very clear, for I write about the Trickster a lot. I do not intend for misrepresentations or misunderstandings of what I think about this topic to be perpetuated.

You can read my article Speculation on Mary as a Trickster, here.
Stephen Yuish’s article Many Apparitions of Mary may be Tricksters but the Real Mary was not! And my blog post here.

Exopolitics and New Age Personas
I make fun of exopolitics and what I call New Agey types a lot. Gentle fun, because I have to say, that with all of their naive and wrong headed approaches (at times arrogant) the intent of exo-politics is good. It can’t hurt. New Age stuff, because, I’m sort of New Agey myself, but can’t quite get there all the way. So much about them makes me laugh and at times, even creeps me out. And, so much of the New Age movement (remember, i live in Eugene, Oregon) is a strange combination of smug and naive. Superior and pretentious. Then again, I admit I experience frequent bouts of general malaise. Still, I am aware of my contradictory personality; I work with crystals, I mediate, I read cards, baby, I do a lot of witchy new age stuff. Hell, I even like purple.

All this is leading up to shameless self promotion: my next two articles for UFO Magazine are on these topics. The Purple Road discussed New Age perspectives and UFOs, and after that is a piece on the exopolitics movement.

Mating Hedgehogs
Isn’t a paranormal blog per se, but it does have some high strangeness stuff on there. You’ll never know what you’ll find over there.

Ghost Photo Contest
Lesley (Debris Field, etc.) is running her ghost photo contest again this year. I entered, why not? You can find more here.
Things That Caught My Eye

Cave skylights from Mars. I love anything about Mars; I’m telling you, the little buggers are up there. Awhile back there were the deep black holes on Mars. In May I wrote a little blog piece on my spot on
The Daily Grail about the holes. It’s making the rounds again. As always, with things like this, I have wonder what parts are they leaving out when they tell us this stuff?

Nick Redfern’s new book Man-Monkey is reviewed here. Sigh, another book to go on my yearly reading list. I’m still trying to catch up from last year!

Fresh Crater in Peru: Meteorite?
As someone pointed out, why hasn’t this made headline news? Anyway, interesting of course and just what did happen? What crashed and left a crater in its wake in Peru? Some suggest it was a spy satellite. Possible of course, but given the context of the source, I’d take it with a grain of salt.

The CIA, Star Gate and Spying Spooks
Gary S. Bekkum writes about the CIA and its spookier high strangeness side in Secrets Revealed: CIA Allegedly Transferred STAR GATE to Spy Agency

Ideas

It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.—Aristotle

I lifted this quote from Lisa Shiel's Bigfoot Quest blog. I like this quote, and think it's important in any area,includng the UFO and esoteric realm. How else are we to get anywhere if we don't allow ourselves to consider other ideas, perspectives?

Along these lines (well, to me, after all I'm a Pisces so I think a bit off kilter) is what Tim Binnall said in his interview on the Blue Rose Report podcast recently. He said, of UFO studies and theories and choosing a "side" to be on, that:
"There aren't any sides, it's a circle." I probably have that wrong, but that's the gist.

I can delve into Reptilians and Nazi gnomes living inside the earth without literally "believing" in such things. Or explore the Contactee movement without believing that Adamski, Fry, etc. really rode in a spaceship to Venus, or over the United States. That's not to say they were lying - and here's where this idea of entertaining ideas comes in. It's not always such an easy dichotomy when it comes to this arena: either or, black white, literal or not, etc.

So many are still stuck on nuts and bolts vs. the mystical, the ETH vs. anything else. Roswell as the great answer to the puzzle.

Speaking of Roswell (I know,I'm sorry) there are those who expect the answer as a salvation to the UFO enigma, and those who believe that, since Roswell is "dead" all of UFOlogy are dead. More of that either or stuff.

Binnall, in his interview, also stressed the importance of getting the views of international UFO researchers. Lesley (Debris Field, Beyond the Dial, Grey Matters) has done a lot towards gathering international research resources for our benefit. U.S. research and studies in this context needs the perspective of not only international researchers but multi cultural and minority researchers from within the states as well.

At the risk of sounding annoyingly multicultural p.c., I'll say it anyway: the views about UFOs and the paranormal our society has as a whole are held and supported (controlled) by the white dominant paradigm. (As is everything.) When it comes to the paranormal, to UFOs, to the weird in general, our infrastructure does its job: denies, and decompartmentalizes.

Most of this is a given in any culture, and due to the Trickster at work. Divide, invert, juxtapose, hide. And expecting it all to change suddenly because we've now included other views is like the naive expectations of the exopolitics people.

But it can't hurt. Anyway, what's the goal here? To change "them," or to change us?

Vivacious exchange of information and ideas doesn't mean, or guarantee, agreement. That's not the point. It might turn out I think a particular culture's mindset regarding UFOs is ridiculous, or pig headed, or weird. So what?

As the man said, we can entertain these ideas without accepting them. At least we've been exposed to new views.

Tim Binnall on The Blue Rose podcast

Finally got to listen to the interview with Tim Binnall, of Binnall of America. It's a good interview, I liked what Tim had to say about those in this field who think, or want, just one theory, who choose one side, to answer all things.

My favorite quote; "There are no sides, it's just round." Perfect.

You can listen to the interview here.

Yulish on “Demonic” “Trickster”

A couple of weeks ago I wrote a piece on Mary as a Trickster for UFO Digest.

(Speculation on Mary as a Trickster.) What I pondered was: can we consider Marian apparitions not strictly as a religious figure, (and certainly not literally) but as a female Trickster? Stephen Yulish responded on UFO Digest with a piece of his own; he wrote:

Many Apparitions of Mary may be Tricksters but the Real Mary was not!

He and I seem to agree, kind of sort of, on the Trickster aspect, but for the wrong reasons. For example, Yulish writes:

Regan Lee's August 6 article in UFO Digest, "Speculation on Mary as a Trickster" was most fascinating. I would tend to agree with her that many if not all of the apparitions of Mary whether they are on a barn or on a tortilla or in the skies above Lourdes, are examples of tricksters, or what I would call demonic manifestations.

I have never said or suggested the Trickster is “demonic” and I don’t ever consider the Trickster in that context. Yulish, however does. So in that sense, he has misrepresented what I’ve written. Yes, I think Marian Apparitions are a Trickster like phenomenon, but never “demonic.”

This misrepresentation isn’t personal however. It’s caused by his world view, which is a religious one. Yulish considers UFOs “demonic manifestations of fallen angels sent here to deceive people.”

Yulish is correct when he writes “The Catholic Church in it's exuberance to win over native people's often incorporated pre Christian symbols and practices.” He continues that Mary couldn’t forgive sins, that she wasn’t a “saver of souls.” That may be, that’s religious doctrine, and I’m not concerned with that as much. My focus was on the image of Mary and within a paranormal context.

Yulish thinks that at a certain point later on, he “separates” from my views. I say that he’s “separated” much earlier, given his “demonic” viewpoint:

In my mind, these are examples of Ms.Lee's trickster motif. By "tricking" people into believing that Mary can save people or forgive their sins, they are kept from the truth that only Jesus can do these things. To associate these false apparitional tricksters with UFO sightings makes my case that both manifestations are demonic delusions to lead people from the truth.

He agrees, as I said “kind of sort of,” but I can’t agree, for Yulish is coming from a pronounced religious point of view. I don’t think for two seconds “only Jesus can do these things” for I don’t believe in Jesus as a divine being. Nor do I think the Trickster apparitions are “false” in the sense he means, nor “demonic.”

Yulish separates himself from me here:

Where I seem to separate myself from Ms. Lee is in her statement that Mary was not a virgin and might have been impregnated by an angel etc. Scripture is clear that the real Mary was a nice Jewish, virgin girl who found favor with God (Luke 1:27-35) and was immaculately infused by the Holy Spirit (God) not by an angel. The angel just told her what was happening.

Well, we’re just going around in circles. Scripture makes it clear, yes. Christian scripture. That don’t make it so. And this is the point his entire disagreement hinges on: he’s coming from, at all times, a Christian bias, whereas I am not.

One believes what they believe, and if Yulish believes in his version of a religion, in this case Christianity, fine. But he is in error in believing I think the Trickster is “demonic,” etc. for I do not.